Archive for June, 2007

Jesus position form the Christians and Muslims point of view!

June 19, 2007

Dear Freinds,

My dear friend Konami translated the original article from Amy and also my response to it.

I have editted it and added some other verses also to it that I have not refrenced.

Please read my opinions to it as below.

Thanks a Lot to Konami And Amy,

We all hope that our efforts decreases the differences between Christians and Muslims all around the world.

Sepehr Mohamadi

P.S. I will try to categorize the discussions and continue it one by one.



And thank you for your article

Since I really love and admire the prophet of love and kindness, Jesus Christ (PBUH), and since I can’t explain how great the kindness and love I’ve been felt in his holy book is, certainly such article that is narrated by one of his enamored can not be omitted.

Here are some opinions that I hope will be considered just by a scientific view and won’t hurt you or won’t be present as an insult to ,my Christian brothers and sisters and their beliefs. And hope to refine and improve the thoughts of all truth-seeking people around the world:

You remarked that Messiah Jesus was strange, I completely agree you in this point. Any prophet had a kind of relationship with God. Mosses could talk to God and Mohammad could talk to God via inspiration. But Jesus, according to Qur’an and bible, was the Divine Word or logos.

[4:171] O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. You shall not say, “Trinity.” You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master.

(Qur’an- 4-171)

Also in Bible:

1 John 1 TNIV

The Incarnation of the Word of Life

1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched���this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our [a] joy complete.

So, in my opinion, Jesus’ whole existence from the birth to his divine ascension was the Divine Word.

1-Jesus’ birth was strange

As you said, Jesus’ birth was strange. I’m completely agree with you in this point. The birth of Messiah from virgin Mary was so strange that God has said this verse to prevent any kind of exaggeration:

[3:59] The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was.

(Qur’an 3-59)

2- The prophecies about Jesus were strange

I agree you in this point too. The prophet Isaiah, the prophet John and many other prophets’ prophecies before savior Messiah’s appearance were so strange.

3-Jesus’ being without any mistake?

I don’t agree you in this point. Messiah, Mohammad and Islamic Imams all were human beings in front of holy God and none of them are without mistake. Maybe the kind of their mistakes are very different than ordinary people’s sins but no one and no creature is perfect except God himself. Pay attention that they may don���t do sins but mistakes are possible.

4-Jesus’ kindness to sinners was strange

One of my affections for Jesus’ great spirit, is his unlimited affection to all people without any exception, even sinners. I agree you in this point again.

5-Jesus’ power of forgiving sins?

Surely, Jesus has not been able to forgive anyone’s sin without God’s permission.

Whatever we name it “intercession” is just possible by God’s permission. No intercession will be possible without his permission.

6- Jesus’ miracles were strange

Yes. Jesus had a lot of strange miracles with God’s permission.

7-Jesus’ teachings were strange

I agree you in this point as well. In fact, Jesus didn’t bring a new religion but he offered a romantic and kind view of the previous religion. And contemporaneous and coming people got impressed by this.

8-Jesus’ poverty and humility was strange

You are right. Imam Ali has talked about his poverty and that he didn’t marry. I’ve understood his humi
lity in Bible as well.

9-Jesus’ death?

Messiah didn’t get killed. A mistake has been happened in the history!

And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him – they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.* [Qu’ran 4:157]

I don’t agree you in this point.

10-Jesus’ being alive (Not Rebirth)!!!

I agree that Jesus is alive. All people accept the death and they have no other way but God has permitted four persons to be alive with their earthly body. These four persons are: Jesus, the prophet Khezr(khidr), Imam Mahdi (Muslims savior) and Prophet Enoch(known as Idris or elyas in Quran).

This is definitely a mystery of the creation.

Pay attention to this verse in Bible about Enoch the Prophet:

Hebrews 11 TNIV

5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.” [a] For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

11- Jesus’ prophecy about his resurrection was strange.

I agree you in this point too. Jesus resurrection is a mystery of the creation and it will happen to prove God’s promise and God’s religion will take whole the world. In that time, Imam Mahdi, Jesus, and Khidr will be in alliance and try for God’s religion.

12-Jesus’ position is strange

If you mean Jesus’ position in God’s view, yes, it really is and I agree you. But his position in peoples’ view has been changed because people themselves always change.

13- Jesus’ influence in world is strange

Yes, I agree. The influence of Bible in world is really impressive. And it broke the limitation of a special religion for a special tribe(Israel) by Peter and for that Jesus’ faith, the faith of love and kindness found such influence in the world.

Pay attention to this verse what Peter said:

Acts 10 TNIV

34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts those from every nation who fear him and do what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. 37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached��� 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

14-His being present with his followers is strange

Of course I agree you. There are still many people who have succeeded to see Jesus’ Great Spirit or receive blessing from him. I hope we also succeed to meet this great soul and feel his deep love, kindness and warmth.

Of course, meeting someone who you love him very much is always possible.

15-His presence in believers��� hearts?

Of course I understand that any group will be associated with their own leaders and Imams. But I don’t understand Jesus’ presence in believers��� hearts!

If it means that we could feel God’s presence in our heart via Jesus, this presence is definitely good and great. But if the goal is just the presence of Jesus, a big mistake has been occurred.

GOD will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary,* did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?’ ” He will say, “Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets. [Qu’ran 5:116]

“I told them only what You commanded me to say, that’You shall worship GOD, my Lord and your Lord.’ I was a witness among them for as long as I lived with th
em. When You terminated my life on earth, You became the Watcher over them. You witness all things” [Qu’ran 5:117]

Nothing sould prevent the connection between a man and his Lord.

Lots of prayers for those who really love the truth.

Sepehr Mohamadi

P.S. links and pics are removed as Amy requested!

Jesus Name is Strange!

June 16, 2007

Dear Friends,

My new valued Christian friend Amy is posted a new blog titled Jesus Name is Strange!

The article is in persian and described 15 reasons that why he claimed that Jesus Name is strange.

I have posted a long comment there and claimed as a Muslim point of view that, I totally confirm that Jesus Name was really Strange and I also wondered about it. But some reasonings that provided is not accepted by Quran.

Unfortunatly the discussion is in persian but I strongly invite everyone that can read persian to join our discussion here.

I always welcome any interreligious discussions.

Thanks every body,

Sepehr Mohamadi

P.S. links and pics are removed as Amy requested!

The correct meaning of Jihad!

June 8, 2007

[Quran 22:78]

You shall strive for the cause of GOD as you should strive for His cause. He has chosen you and has placed no hardship on you in practicing your religion – the religion of your father Abraham. He is the one who named you “Submitters” originally. Thus, the messenger shall serve as a witness among you, and you shall serve as witnesses among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and hold fast to GOD; He is your Lord, the best Lord and the best Supporter.

Dear Freinds,

Many non-Moslims and also some Moslims think that “Jihad” is meaning “killing” and unfortunatly some others think that “Jihad” is “Killing Innocents”!!!

God never commanded anyone to kill any innocents!!!

Quran declares killing just one innocent people just like killing all people:

[Quran 5:32]

Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. Our messengers went to them with clear proofs and revelations, but most of them, after all this, are still transgressing.

How can the creator of all people ask us to kill innocent people?

In addition if some people did an injustice to Muslims, God command is that you have no right to do injustice:

[Quran 5:8]

O you who believe, you shall be absolutely equitable, and observe GOD, when you serve as witnesses. Do not be provoked by your conflicts with some people into committing injustice. You shall be absolutely equitable, for it is more righteous. You shall observe GOD. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do.

“Jihad” word in Arabic means “Striving” or “Trying hard” . Fighting also named “Jihad” because it’s a hard work. Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) Told us that Smaller Jihad is fighting but Greater Jihad is fighting with your inner evils.

My dear Sister Bosra introduced this very intresting video declaring what is “Jihad” is according to deep Islamic teaches.

I strongly suggest everyone to watch this clip.

It’s a scene from the show “Sleeper Cell” :

Weak is the pursuer and the pursued!

June 6, 2007

[Quran 22:73,74]

O people, here is a parable that you must ponder carefully: the idols you set up beside GOD can never create a fly, even if they banded together to do so. Furthermore, if the fly steals anything from them, they cannot recover it; weak is the pursuer and the pursued.

They do not value GOD as He should be valued. GOD is the Most Powerful, the Almighty.

Dear friends,

This a very intresting and wonderful parable from Quran. Can money or power or modern science create a mosquito? A complete mosquito that can be an independent new generation?

If a mosquito bite us, what can we do? Can we get back the blood that it steals from us?

We should accept that we are very weak against our creator.

Sepehr Mohamadi


June 5, 2007

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